DC’s Stargirl has been wading in dark themes for much of season 2, but in this week’s episode, the superhero team-up series goes to a really dark place – the Shadowlands, to which Cindy and now Courtney (among others) were sent by Eclipso .
TVLine invited Cindy Berman, aka Shiv’s portrayer, Meg DeLacy, to revisit the wild cafeteria fight that eventually led to Cindy’s own “black tar goo” date, then give a sneak peek at the unlikely alliance that both Cindy and Courtney will form. (played by Brec Bassinger) could save in this Tuesday’s decidedly moody, black-and-white episode (aired at 8/7c on The CW).
TVLINE | We last saw Cindy in episode 6, at the end of that brutal cafeteria fight. When you first read that script and saw how it ended, did you have any questions about your status with the show?
Oh yeah. Because so many people died in Season 1, there was all this talk about Cindy and “Oh, it’ll look like she’s dead, but she really isn’t.” But when I first read the script, I thought, “[Showrunner] Geoff [Johns]What’s happening?” He said, “Don’t worry, there’s a whole arc planned for your character. But I really want people think that Cindy is dead because of the power in it, and the surprise for the audience once they see Episode 11.” I was gone for four episodes, but it was all worth the wait.
TVLINE | The fans were sad, Man! Even though she is a villain….
They were so sad! I know. They were so sad. It was the first time Cindy was really terrified.
TVLINE | Well, I was curious: how did that episode 6 script describe the moment? Like, “Cindy sinks into…” what?
It was like, ‘Cindy is slowly getting sucked into this black tarry gray and Courtney comes to her rescue, clinging to her hands and shoulders. Cindy has no idea what’s going on, and for the first time, we see Cindy purely terrified—in her faces and in her eyes and with her scream.” It was kind of like, “How are they going to do that? What is this ‘tar goo’? It was hard to imagine but when the stunt team came in and showed us a prediction[ualization] of what it would look like, I thought, “OK, this makes sense.” Because on paper it sounds a bit crazy!
TVLINE | Yvette [Monreal, Yolanda] told me filming that fight scene was… quite one thing, because it was so involved and action packed.
It was So concerned. It was also one of the first times the entire cast plus some reruns were all together. We were in this cafeteria for about two weeks and most of the episode is stunts, and they last a long time – as they should…. It felt like camp! Walter Garcia, our stunt coordinator, is absolutely incredible and he handled every move and character in different ways throughout the series overall.
Our supersuits were tight at the start of the season because they were new, but by the end of Episode 6 they were completely broken in and adjusted to the body. [Laughs] Oh, and it was really dusty! We had dust and debris and air [blowing] constantly, so when The Shade shows up and we can’t see it and we think, “What’s going on?”, that was real. These were real responses.
TVLINE | How would you compare this week’s episode?
It’s getting less action-packed, it’s getting more noir kind of drama. This is the first time we’ve had a black and white episode, which adds a cool dynamic to the show. It will show a whole different side of what this show can bring, in the acting sense and as far as aesthetics and design. The Shadowlands is a pretty scary place, and a little spooky. The show itself was generally a little more terrifying, but this takes another level to that, because it’s a world that nobody really knows anything about. Cindy is stuck for who knows how long actually or how long feels like, and it torments her. It is our insecurities, it is our demons that are introduced to us every day.
TVLINE | What is Cindy’s state of mind when we see her?
Well, she definitely feels stuck. She lives the same day over and over – it’s a bit Groundhog Day-ish – dealing with her father who shows up all the time and that she kills him over and over. She’s tired of it all. She’s over it. She hasn’t really let Eclipso get into her head where her real struggle is her mother’s death and how she was responsible for it. So in this episode Courtney and Cindy face each other [their demons] together, side by side. Two brains are better than one!
TVLINE | It sounds like this episode could fine-tune the “frenemies” dynamic between the two of you, among other things.
It absolutely will. I mean, I think Cindy always respected Courtney because she came in and called the shots when there was a whole plan with the ISA and what they were going to do. Cindy sees Courtney as a threat, but also sees the potential in her as a leader. It will be refreshing to see these two put aside their differences and their histories and work together as it is a matter of life and death. It’s a cool dynamic that I think the audience will really enjoy.
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